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An unidentified flag or ensign (ufe) in Lundy (GB)

While I was on Lundy, I took a photograph of a painting which hangs in the vestibule of the Church. The photo didn't come out, unfortunately, but it commemorates a Dutch coaster, the M.V. Atlas, of Groningen, and her 2nd engineer, Fokko Smit, who lost his life when the ship was wrecked on one of Lundy's notorious rocks during the second world war, in 1942.
The painting showed the vessel flying the Dutch national flag (not an ensign) at the stern, and further forward (not at the bow) she is flying a flag which I didn't recognise and cannot find on FOTW-ws. It is an orange field with the Dutch national flag in the canton and a 3-digit number (the ship's registration?) in white on the field.
The same flag, with no number, also appears above the inscription which forms part of the painting, where it is shown crossed with the Dutch national flag against an anchor.
André Coutanche, 17 Apr 2002

Just a guess: possibly a houseflag. Several Dutch shipping companies had tricolors in the canton, some RWB, like the HSM, Hollandsche Stoomboot Maatschappij, which had a white field with red capitals HSM. In Groningen were very small companies, sometimes owning only one coaster, and I suppose it will be hard to find the company. Which digits are
written on the field?
Jarig Bakker, 17 Apr 2002

This sounds like the flag of a Seaman's College (Zeemanscollege). Several of them have a Dutch canton. The number would be the captain's memberschip number.
But I don't know which one this would be. If the ship is from Groningen one would expect a member of De Groninger Eendracht, but then the flag would have been white, and the number would have been preceded with "Gr". Of course, by 1949 the captain could well have been from a town different from the ships home port.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 17 Apr 2002

I can say that the inscription says:
'In memory of Fokko Smit 2nd Engineer
and the crew of MV Atlas of Groningen
wrecked near the Shutter during the night of Octr 9/10 1942.
"The Sea is His and He made it".'
[The Shutter is a rock].
I didn't write down the number on the flag (assuming that I would have it on the photo), but I am 99% certain that it consisted just of three digits and no letters.
André Coutanche, 17 Apr 2002

A UFE on a motorboat

[UFE on a motorboat] by Jarig Bakker, 26 May 2004

I've seen a flag, hoisted on a big motorboat, in the Netherlands. It's a black flag, with a yellow rectangle in the middle. I hope you know where this flag stands for.
Dion van der Born, 26 May 2004