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Salt mines near Krakow - in the underground chappel there are Polish,Vatican and miners green over black flags, There is also a white-yellow vertical banner.
Dov Gutterman, 22 Mar 2002
Adam Kromer was recently in Wieliczka, in the salt mines (as a tourist, not as a condemned one) and talked to some people
in authority about the Dov's flag on your Polish pages. That flag is not only for the salt mines but for all the miners, primarily the coalminers, so numerous in Poland.
To confirm it, he saw (on TV) a lot of recent demonstrations protesting closures of those mines (Welcome to European Union) where these flags were in abundance.
Chrystian Kretowicz, 19 Nov 2002
Salt mines near Krakow - there is also a white-yellow vertical banner.
Dov Gutterman, 22 Mar 2002
There is, most likely one of a kind, Museum of Buttons in Lowicz, Poland run by one Jerzy Rutkowski, great authority on ... buttons. The Museum has its own flag, even if it is rather small institution. The entire collection fits into a suitcase and is stored in the closet in Mr. Rutkowski's apartment in Lowicz. The best way to view the significant collection is by the way of Internet at this webpage, where the information is presented in both, Polish and English.
The flag is pictured and described at this webpage.
Chrystian Kretowicz, 20 Nov 2002
Isn't Pomorze "Pomerania"?
Pascal Vagnat, 19 May 1999
DAR POMORZA is a Polish sail training ship, so I guess that must be the flag of the ship...
Robert M J Czernkowski, 21 May 1999
I think, that it could be some flag of ¦wiêtokrzyskie voyevodship. It had a coat of arms with 7 vertical red/white stripes on right (heraldic) side of shield and eight golden stars on blue field on left side.
O. Myszor, 20 Nov 2001
If I understand the description clearly, looking at the flag attached to the pole (on the left for arguments sake) the flag is red on the left side, white on the right, with a white eagle on the red part. Lodge or club flags tend to have local symbols, most clubs revolve around a town or region. If it is Polish, it sounds more like some sort of battle or naval flag. It wasn't until later centuries, probably about the 18th -19th that the current colors of white on top and red on the bottom were codified. Tradition says that the early Polish flag was red on top white on the bottom, until so much blood was shed on Polish soil that it soaked into the land leaving the sky white. One hint on the identity of the flag in question would be how the eagle is represented. The stylization of the eagle seems fairly consistent over long periods so that it should look similar to the current version. Those are my best guesses. When I have some time, I'll see if I have any pictures of flags that look like this one. It might help to know where this flag was seen.
Michael J Cwik, 8 Aug 2000
My understanding of the description tallies with your supposition: the flag is divided vertically, the red to the hoist, the white to the fly. I asked my girlfriend tonight about the eagle charge and she's pretty sure that it was not holding anything in its claws, but equally she doesn't think it was crowned, which would tend to identify it as Polish if it was.
Roy Stilling, 8 Aug 2000
The absence of a crown may make this a communist-era flag, if indeed it is Polish. Unless and until some New Yorker reports more detail on this flag, we'll have to live with Cwik's guess as a working hypothesis.
Al Kirsch, 9 Aug 2000
I went researching about this flag, & other polish flags, while doing this I visited FOTW's polish flag page. I discovered this flag to match the description of the undentified Polish flag: Banner of President of Republic of Poland 1945-1952.
Joshua Horn, 30 Sep 2001
What would a Polish president be doing in Broadway?
Rob Raeside, 1 Oct 2001